{"id":4496,"date":"2023-03-11T18:13:45","date_gmt":"2023-03-12T01:13:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/?p=4496"},"modified":"2023-03-11T18:16:12","modified_gmt":"2023-03-12T01:16:12","slug":"christians-got-it-backwards-redux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/spiritualreligious\/christians-got-it-backwards-redux","title":{"rendered":"Christians got it backwards, redux."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, recently I went to the funeral of a good friend from high school.. I mentioned various bits along the way to this in previous blog entries. Anyway, I had a interesting talk with her husband, who did not insist that I was going to hell for all eternity for my beliefs. (Always a good sign)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve actually come to think that insofar as there is any test attached to our beliefs, it&#8217;s the opposite of the one the Christians think is there.<\/p>\n<p>This is partially because a utopia populated entirely with people who believe the sin ransom theory so popular in Christianity wouldn&#8217;t be much of a utopia.<\/p>\n<p>Look, so, we have people wandering around, Jews, who don&#8217;t believe Jesus was the prophet. We have Christians, who do. We have Islamic folks, who believe that Jesus was a prophet but so was this dude who came after him, Mohammad. Then we&#8217;ve got folks who believe that Buddha was where it&#8217;s at, and we&#8217;ve got folks who can make some kind of sense of the Bahagavad Gita. <\/p>\n<p>The vast majority of them is convinced they are &#8220;right&#8221;, that their point of view is correct and the views of others are wrong. <\/p>\n<p>At this point, I have to think that the folks I would let into a utopia &#8211; as opposed to the folks that I would send back around for more exposure in the hopes that they&#8217;d grow up some &#8211; are the folks who *didn&#8217;t* think their religion was the one true one and all other folks were going to hell.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, the whole concept of torturing folks for failing to believe the unbelievable trips circuit breakers in my mind. I don&#8217;t know *how* I know God is better than that, but I do. All these religious folks are proclaiming belief in a *evil* diety. There&#8217;s no other word to describe someone who expects you to guess right from a plethora of choices and would torture you or through allow inaction allow you to be tortured for not guessing right.<\/p>\n<p>I mean, let&#8217;s not forget that Christianity was deliberately made unbelievable. There&#8217;s far more probable explanations for all of this than a virgin birth, individual who could bend the laws of reality at will, came back to life after dying. That&#8217;s a pretty unplausable story right there. So, we have a deity who will torture you for all eternity *for being what you were made to be*, let&#8217;s not forget, unless you *believe something that&#8217;s very, very hard to believe*.<\/p>\n<p>Um, no. Far more likely: trying to believe the unbelievable damages people&#8217;s minds in ways that make them easier to lead around by the nose. And in any case the whole thing exists to make money for the shamans. <\/p>\n<p>It does however worry me significantly that Christians that believe in Sin Ransom can&#8217;t see that they are worshiping a evil god. Or maybe they&#8217;re so scared of God they know he&#8217;s evil and they worship him anyway? <\/p>\n<p>I wish I could just forget the whole thing, but there is a conspicuous hole in my life where any religion might sit. Perhaps I need to sit down and write one. I&#8217;m sure all the Christians in my life would tell me that&#8217;s a horribly sinful thing to do and I&#8217;ll get extra-tortured for that. <\/p>\n<p>For my part, I think religions are just another handy way to divide into &#8220;Us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; and justify treating &#8220;them&#8221; badly. It even implies that God does it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, recently I went to the funeral of a good friend from high school.. I mentioned various bits along the way to this in previous blog entries. Anyway, I had a interesting talk with her husband, who did not insist that I was going to hell for all eternity for my beliefs. (Always a good [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4496"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4496"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4496\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4500,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4496\/revisions\/4500"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4496"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4496"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4496"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}