{"id":2248,"date":"2012-06-16T23:27:18","date_gmt":"2012-06-17T06:27:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/?p=2248"},"modified":"2012-06-18T13:21:40","modified_gmt":"2012-06-18T20:21:40","slug":"tech-post-hp-how-to-migrate-system-volume-to-ssd-windows-7","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.sheer.us\/weblogs\/uncategorized\/tech-post-hp-how-to-migrate-system-volume-to-ssd-windows-7","title":{"rendered":"tech post: HP how to migrate system volume to SSD Windows 7"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Below is a email I would have sent to HP &#8211; had they not given me a fake email address when I asked for a address to send them the solution to.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve worked tech support. I know how hard it can be. And I know that no tech support person would *ever* want to walk someone through the steps I outline below. But you shouldn&#8217;t lie to your customers. I&#8217;m sure the person I talked to knew it was possible. He could have told me &#8220;I&#8217;m not allowed to answer that question because HP would rather not spend money on my time to walk you through this.&#8221; Which would have been the truth, and I would have been all right with. <\/p>\n<p>The company I worked for doing tech support had a policy of lying to customers. They would commonly tell them they needed a special type of printer cable for &#8220;bidirectional&#8221; support, when in fact the majority of the problems the customers were having had nothing to do with that. <\/p>\n<p>They also lied to vendors.. but that&#8217;s another story. Anyway, I don&#8217;t really blame the individual I talked to, and while I started to vent my frustration at him for either A: lying to me or B: not knowing what he was talking about, I quickly reined myself in because I realized I had zero interest in hurting him or making his day worse, and he was the victim of a much larger system as much as I was.<\/p>\n<p>That said.. if anyone else out there is trying to do this migration, here&#8217;s how I made it work. Took me about a hour and a half to figure this out &#8211; if I can save someone else the trouble, great!<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p>I called tonight (from XXX-XXX-5701) to ask how I could install Windows 7 from the system disk that the computer shipped with (1.5T) to a high performance SSD (Smaller. But much larger than the 40G in use). Your technician, while very polite, was pretty much clueless. He was able to identify that the reason I wasn&#8217;t able to use your recovery utility was that the disk geometry was wildly different, but he couldn&#8217;t tell me any solution other than purchasing windows install disks for $200.<\/p>\n<p>I thanked him for his time, and offered to email him the solution once I found it. (I&#8217;m a career sysadmin and programmer. I knew it was possible. Just not how, yet.) Here it is.<\/p>\n<p>Next I did what I really should have done first, and googled for my problem. The first hit was <A HREF=http:\/\/sonic-media.dk\/?p=103>http:\/\/sonic-media.dk\/?p=103<\/A>, which describes how to do exactly what I&#8217;m doing. Of course, there are caveats.<\/p>\n<p>To do this, you need a external USB disk with enough space to fit all the bloatware that HP installs on the system. 64G is probably the minimum I would do &#8211; but I had a 1T lying around, which let me keep several instances of the backup to try out.<\/p>\n<p>In order to make the NTFS partition *fit* on the SSD, it needs shrunk. This can be done from inside disk manager (see <A HREF=http:\/\/www.sevenforums.com\/tutorials\/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html>http:\/\/www.sevenforums.com\/tutorials\/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html<\/A>), but first you have to disable system protection, virtual memory, and hibernation. (links to how to do all that included)<\/p>\n<p>(optional) You also have the option to delete the system restore partition. I know, tech support is groaning at me about this, but remember your average person bright enough to know they want a SSD is also bright enough to write that data off somewhere else first. Remember that SSDs are *expensive* &#8211; you want every gigabyte to go to something you&#8217;re going to use, if not every day, at least occasionally. So yes, obviously, make a backup first. (In fact, that&#8217;s kind of the whole point of the first article. You&#8217;re using the Windows Image Backup tool to make a backup and restore it onto your new media). Then delete it. You can always restore to your original system disk with that partition once you&#8217;re done with this exercise.<\/p>\n<p>For a boot disk (the windows backup tool asks you if you want to make one) I suggest using nonvolatile media like a DVD, as I discovered to my chagrin that if you pull the USB drive while shutdown is occuring using USB restore media, you don&#8217;t have USB restore media any more. I like my restore media to stay restore media.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, this is not something you want to walk Grandma through over the phone. But for advanced users, you could forward this email to them rather than telling them that it&#8217;s not possible to do what they want to do. SSDs are a great improvement over spinning disks, speed wise, because they have zero seek time &#8211; and as the cost drops, you&#8217;re going to see more and more people wanting to do what I just did. (Of course, eventually the capacity will be large enough that this issue won&#8217;t come up)<\/p>\n<p>Finally, the Vertex SSD I had purchased came already formatted NTFS. For some reason, the system restore utility &#8211; even though it said it would partition and format the disk.. got very upset about this. So, I followed the directions in <A HREF=http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/windows\/forum\/windows_7-system\/no-disk-that-can-be-used-for-recovering-the-system\/e855ee43-186d-4200-a032-23d214d3d524>http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/windows\/forum\/windows_7-system\/no-disk-that-can-be-used-for-recovering-the-system\/e855ee43-186d-4200-a032-23d214d3d524<\/A> to use the recovery console to wipe the disk.<\/p>\n<p>Also, of course, most of us can figure this stuff out. \ud83d\ude09 I just hoped that calling tech support would save me having to run down all the information myself.<\/p>\n<p>P.S. the computer now takes longer to go through the BIOS stuff than it does to boot the OS. \ud83d\ude09 Windows 7, from 0 to fully online in 6 seconds. Now perhaps you understand why I bothered?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Below is a email I would have sent to HP &#8211; had they not given me a fake email address when I asked for a address to send them the solution to. I&#8217;ve worked tech support. I know how hard it can be. 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